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Post by tyson on Aug 17, 2015 14:37:32 GMT -5
50 y/o female presented as first pt of day in Lima. Sternal chest pressure radiating to right arm 30 minutes prior to presentation. Smoker. Doesn't see doctor. Denies any pmh. Have 4 ekgs, 2 here of which i'll show. First one is taken upon presentation. 2nd one is from 5 years previous. Look at them and let me know what you think. I sent ekgs to cards who wasn't too impressed, just said he'd see in the CVU. Do you think stemi should have been pushed? Stransky and I looked at Steve smiths equation and I think this would qualify for subtle LAD occlusion. thoughts? agree, disagree? For the attendings, are you pretty aggressive about pushing cardiology to cath the borderline cases? Attachments:
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Post by jpollock on Aug 18, 2015 16:34:19 GMT -5
definitely would do serial ekgs, not sure I would push too much if it is not evolving (I tend to give up easy)
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Post by tyson on Aug 18, 2015 21:55:39 GMT -5
Ended up doing 2 more EKG's, nothing evolved into outright STEMI, though changes did occur with Nitro and came back about 1 hour later.
I followed up on Cath Report today, and it ended up showing 95% LAD occlusion. Very cool. 1 stent.
In this case, using the Steve Smith Subtle LAD occlusion formula (though I did use it 3 days after the fact and required Stransky to hold my hand) was quite accurate.
Formula below:
(1.196 x STE at 60 ms after the J-point in V3 in mm) + (0.059 x computerized QTc) - (0.326 x R-wave Amplitude in V4 in mm). A value greater than 23.4 is quite sensitive and specific for LAD occlusion.
Tyson
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Post by erinto on Aug 27, 2015 6:08:13 GMT -5
I do what you suggested. I send questionable ones to cardiology, unless the patient looks stone cold normal, and my suspicion is low. I repeat EKG's as often as necessary, sometimes the rhythm will produce changes suspicious for acute elevation, and you can catch it, if you are quick enough.
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Post by pbruss on Sept 3, 2015 13:42:10 GMT -5
i like the smith euqation. there have benn a few cases where it drasticall changed my managment. any time some one has cp and a prolonged qt i use this equation not to send right to cath but help me decide how to manage.
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